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How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby palani » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:40 pm

PHOSPHENE wrote:Image


Why bother killing off the straw-man when it is just as easy to liquidate the ass(ets) of the Wicked Witch of the West by dousing her with a bucket of water. By liquidating this wench you get access to her conveyance (complete discharge of the debt).

The only problem with this is you still haven't learned not to be a strawman so you will not have changed your condition .. only your master.
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby wealllbe20 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:58 am

Still haven't seen but about 10 minutes of that movie.

ugh...
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby Shikamaru » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:57 am

wealllbe20 wrote:have you guys read this?
and the cases cited in the footnotes?
Who decides on admiralty jurisdiction?
legislative branch or judicial?
what does that article say about the scope of admiralty jurisdiction?

yes the DeLovio case in is the footnotes wayy up.

Annotation 15 - Article III


Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution with respect to admiralty/maritime.
The vice-admiralty courts were a real sore spot with the colonists.

Any writings by Dr. Frank Wiswall will be of interest to anyone concerning Admiralty/Maritime study.

Maritime law lecture from Dr. Wiswall

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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby wealllbe20 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:42 am

snoop4truth, have you done the reading yet?

It's only been since October.
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby Shoonra » Tue May 17, 2016 11:17 am

It is the court that determines if a case falls within admiralty jurisdiction and the usual criterion is the presence of WATER.

The DeLovio decision -- De Lovio v. Boit (D. Mass. 1815) 7 Fed.Cases nr. 3776, page 418 - was a case involving marine insurance, insurance on a sailing ship and its cargo. No subsequent court applied maritime law to such dry land situations as automobile insurance. Taking a badly written sentence from 1815 and trying to use it 200 years later, while ignoring all the legal history in-between, fools nobody worth fooling.

You will discover, if you bother to look, plenty of efforts, in traffic court, in criminal court, in tax court, for litigants (usually playing their own lawyer) trying to flimflam the judge into treating their case as an admiralty action, but it never works.
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby Jethro! » Tue May 17, 2016 11:41 am

Shoonra wrote:It is the court that determines if a case falls within admiralty jurisdiction and the usual criterion is the presence of WATER.

The DeLovio decision -- De Lovio v. Boit (D. Mass. 1815) 7 Fed.Cases nr. 3776, page 418 - was a case involving marine insurance, insurance on a sailing ship and its cargo. No subsequent court applied maritime law to such dry land situations as automobile insurance.


Really? So what's this COMMERCIAL INLAND MARINE policy I've got?? I guarantee you -- this insured stuff is about as far away from a body of water as you can get.

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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby Shoonra » Tue May 17, 2016 11:43 am

The insurance company may offer any kind of insurance it wants, this is a different issue entirely from whether litigation on that policy will be heard in admiralty jurisdiction.
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby palani » Tue May 17, 2016 1:08 pm

Shoonra wrote:The insurance company may offer any kind of insurance it wants, this is a different issue entirely from whether litigation on that policy will be heard in admiralty jurisdiction.

Total and utter nonsense.

Just holding a policy of insurance precludes common law remedies such as treble damages. The policy is proof that you accept the 'benefit' of limited liability. Just the same as when you hold a FRN you have accepted the benefit of LEGAL TENDER.

I don't hold either insurance or legal tender. These are how Dorothy arrived in Oz in lieu of a tornado.
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Re: How To Kill Off The Straw-Man?

Postby wealllbe20 » Tue May 17, 2016 3:40 pm

So, is the District of Columbia on land or water?
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