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lawyers talk about that BIRTH CERTIFICATE NAME

Postby country_hick » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:15 pm

I do not know how legitimate this video is. However, the Federal Judicial Center is the education and research agency of the United States federal courts. It was established by an Act of Congress in 1967,[1] at the recommendation of the Judicial Conference of the United States and can be found online at http://www.fjc.gov

If this video is legitimate is certainly appears to give credence to the birth certificate theories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N6_mYmZJ54
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Re: lawyers talk about that BIRTH CERTIFICATE NAME

Postby Shoonra » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:43 pm

It turns out this six minute video is bits back and forth from an hour-long seminar on bankruptcy law.

https://archive.org/details/gov.ntis.ava21061vnb1.1

The lawyers are saying, back and forth, that whenever it becomes necessary to mention a corporation, an association, or a govt agency in the bankruptcy paperwork, either as a debtor or a creditor or some other capacity, the corporation, etc., must be identified by its official name as shown in its incorporation charter (or Congressional authorization or similar official founding document), which the lawyers referred to colloquially as its 'birth certificate'. This did NOT refer to the birth certificate of a human being.
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Re: lawyers talk about that BIRTH CERTIFICATE NAME

Postby country_hick » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:04 am

Not having yet watched the entire hour video what Shoonra says about the short version being taken out of context makes perfect sense.

I know that context can change everything. Thank you for the explanation.
I expressed skepticism as I thought it could be improperly edited but did not know.
I have always thought the birth certificate theory to be highly flawed and will remain skeptical until I see conclusive proof.
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Re: lawyers talk about that BIRTH CERTIFICATE NAME

Postby palani » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:04 am

Shoonra wrote:the corporation, etc., must be identified by its official name as shown in its incorporation charter (or Congressional authorization or similar official founding document), which the lawyers referred to colloquially as its 'birth certificate'. This did NOT refer to the birth certificate of a human being.

The birth certificate is an incorporation of an individual into a larger whole. You don't mix oil and water and you don't mix real and fiction. Like joins with like. The birth certificate doesn't make the imaginary real. It makes the real imaginary.

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